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PostSubject: Re: Any guarantees...?   Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:09 am

I have to agree with what was said here, there are no guarantees, BUT, there are things you can do to make it more likely that your spell will work. Like adding in correspondences. Do you spell in the appropriate moon phase, use approprite colours (for candles or crystals etc), use herbs, oils, crystals, do it on the right day, use a particular number (numerology) of candles/crystals/herbs/etc.

I also agree that love spells are not a good idea, when referring them to someone specific, however you can do a spell to draw a particular type of person into your life. I once did a spell for a friend of mine to attact a soulmate to her, but it was not directed at anybody in particular.

I sometimes use existing spells or adapt them, but often I write my own. One last thing, doing spells is kinda like that saying "Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it", by that I mean that you need to be careful in the wording of your spell or you might just attact something that you hadn't intended.
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PostSubject: Re: Any guarantees...?   Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:25 am

hello

i think there are a lot of good points here

and i think the one which hasn't been mentioned if you don't already know spells or any magic should be used as a last resort for anything you do otherwise people start to become dependent on it

live a magical life but not a solely magic life

if you get what i'm saying
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PostSubject: Re: Any guarantees...?   Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:40 am

A good point nosllew. I seldom actually cast spells and when I do its for a good reason. Also, when starting out on this path, I studied a lot and did a lot of research even before trying to do spells. They are not to be undertaken lightly
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PostSubject: Re: Any guarantees...?   Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:51 pm

Hmmm, now this point I don't agree with:

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spells or any magic should be used as a last resort for anything you do otherwise people start to become dependent on it

live a magical life but not a solely magic life


I think if we weren't supposed to use magic for little things, why would we be given the gift? Most people get the idea that you can't use it for 'personal gain' from the TV series Charmed. That's ridiculous. I mean, yeah, it should be for need not greed, but it is NOT a last resort. If it was a last resort, how do you justify learning Tarot cards, runes, or any form of divination? No one ever NEEDS to know the future, but we still use the arts to try to decipher the mysteries.

And money spells? No one EVER needs to do a money spell, but it's not a bad thing if you try them. Think about it: it's not a last resort in any way shape or form.

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PostSubject: Re: Any guarantees...?   Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:14 pm

people who do money spells need the money hence why the do the spell

as for learning tarot or runes or any divinatory method there is nothing wrong in learning something that can aid you in a time of need

an example while your young you learn all forms of things in school some that you may not need for me as an example geography i really don't need to know the details of the map but it is gonna be handy if i need to read a map

divination tools or methods are there to aid us nothing more

and as for the personal gain remark we ask only for what we need nothing more as you said need not greed

so living a magical life doesn't mean you have to resort to it for every little thing
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PostSubject: Re: Any guarantees...?   Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:32 pm

I think maybe we should make a distinction between spells and magick here. In my opinion, while they are related, they aren't always the same thing. I don't do spells often, but do use 'mundane' type magic often. For example, I empower my food before eating it, I light candles when I meditate or use insense or music to relax, I use visualisation for protection and affirmations. I believe all these things to be a kind of magic, because I as a witch am doing them and believe them to be magic. Yes, they aren't circle casting spell magic, but magic nonetheless.
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PostSubject: Re: Any guarantees...?   Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:38 pm

that brings me back to living a maigical life there is nothing wrong with lighting a candle while meditating or listening to music to alter your mood

what i ment was any form of divination, spell or ritual when not really needed is not really neccesary (magic should not be abused)
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PostSubject: Re: Any guarantees...?   Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:50 pm

Personally, I don't do spells or rituals unless I feel they are needed, but i often use divination to get answers or clarity on things, for myself and others. Sometimes, even when i'm not looking for answers, they come to me anyway, or I sometimes get warnings for people, so I can't really stay away from divination.
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PostSubject: Re: Any guarantees...?   Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:52 pm

then that is something your spiritually drawn to not consciously choosing to do all the time
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PostSubject: Re: Any guarantees...?   Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:57 pm

nosllew wrote:
then that is something your spiritually drawn to not consciously choosing to do all the time

I suppose so, in a way, but then one could also be spiritually drawn to magic and spells. Also, I choose to do divination a lot of the time as well.
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