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 |  Subject: Re: The Line  Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:09 pm | |
| I hope you will not mind me sharing my own experiences of this. I am not saying it is the same for everyone.
Most of my life the road ahead has been difficult to see and even when life has felt absolutely certain or at least it has felt as though things are just ticking along, suddenly something will happen and the path changes. A buddhist friend of mine has often said that life is an illusion and I sometime ponder that statement. It is an interesting viewpoint and at times when life throws a curveball at you, I think this statement seems all the more understandable.
Whatever challenges you face us in life I always believe they are opportunities to grow as a person. Sometimes it takes more time than others, and is more painful than others, but it is still a chance to be better every time.
Wherever your soul searching takes you I hope it will lead you forwards in life and knowledge. Despite any differences we have had before, I mean this most sincerely.
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nosllew
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Logmadr
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| | Subject: Re: The Line Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:24 pm | |
| In reply to your posts about showing someone else what they are doing wrongly with their life, what makes you judge, jury and executioner? If they are chosing to live their lives this way, butt out, in my honest opinion.
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Storm MoonSong
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| | Subject: Re: The Line Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:46 am | |
| Nosllew.....
A few months ago, I posed a similiar question. I seemed lost and mired down in "getting even" and showing someone the error of their ways. Or...more to the point, my opinion of the error of their ways. Very wise people here in the Moot all shared their opinions with me and showed me, once again, that it isn't in my hands to prove to that person who and what they are. It is my place to leave it in the competant hands of the Gods and Goddesses to believe in them and know that "what goes around, comes around"
Remember Nosllew, you do something and it comes back on you 7 fold. Good, or bad. If what you persieve as good may be decided as not so good, do you want to be on the receiving end of good karma or bad karma?
Let Those who truly know be that person's judge and jury in the immortal words of Logmadr. *he truly is wise for someone so...um.......age challenged ...*smirks at loggyboy*
Trust me on this Nosllew, breathe. Take in your surroundings. Think on the subject matter for some time. If in the end you believe you are doing the right thing by judging someone else for their shortcomings, go ahead. But answer me this. Do you have scars on the backs of your hands? Or whip marks on your back? Or puncture marks in your skull from the crown of thorns placed on your head?
If the answer is yes, then by all means.......Judge that person and find them guilty.
*please no offense. Just trying to give you another perspective to think on*
Hugs and Brightest of blessings
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nosllew
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| | Subject: Re: The Line Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:38 pm | |
| thank your as well for sharing but im not god so i dont walk around judging everything in sight as i said above if someone asks me for help and they truly need and deserve it then i will help
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| | Subject: Re: The Line Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:41 pm | |
| Someone might ask you for help, but if it involves hurting someone else in the process of helping them, how can you justify that?
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nosllew
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| | Subject: Re: The Line Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:03 pm | |
| if someone said hi i need your help punch this person for me then i wouldnt but if someone said im being bullied can you help then yes i would
as i again have to say if someone truly needs and deserves it i will help
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| | Subject: Re: The Line Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:37 pm | |
| So you WOULD deem it your personal right to decide who deserves to be smote because what you believe what they are doing is wrong?
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Jaska
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| | Subject: Re: The Line Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:30 pm | |
| this seriously depends on the circumstances ¬_¬
(refer back to my first post)
| Quote: | | if it involves hurting someone else in the process of helping them, how can you justify that? |
some love the greater good idea, some hate it.
as an example:
if 'A' was atacking and in the end going to kill 'B' , would you let 'B' get hurt? or would you just stand there, watch, let the attacker get away with it? the most likely ansewer would be to do something about it. either report on 'A' or to intervene yourself and ultimatly injuring (at least) 'A'.
what if B was your friend? what if A was your friend? in any case, one needs to choose the lesser of two evils (the higher being letting this person continue committing crimes, the lesser being hurting at minimum A)
| Quote: | | So you WOULD deem it your personal right to decide who deserves to be smote because what you believe what they are doing is wrong? |
as i said, there is a difference between reasoning and revenge. if A had killed B, and you sought to kill A, then i would say that would be revenge. but to attack and show/say what they have done wrong, then leave them be after, i would call that reasoning. i would see nothing wrong with that. i see that everyone has a right to reasoning, but revenge would be too far. i dont think what nosllew is talking about is revenge, but reasoning.
again - it is all personal opinion. people have different ideas as to whats wrong and right, and if one can explain their reasoning to their wrong and right, then i say go with it.
ps: | Quote: | | as i again have to say if someone truly needs and deserves it i will help |
lets all take that further and into the extreme, become satainists and say we will take revenge on those who oppose us!!
(please dont take that seriously^_^; )
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| | Subject: Re: The Line Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:54 pm | |
| ....... (crawls back into the corner)
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| | Subject: Re: The Line Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:59 pm | |
| Just noticed that post sounds a little bitchy at you Jaska, not supposed to be at all.. Much loving lol
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| | Subject: Re: The Line Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:28 pm | |
| lol no bitchiness indentified XD
| Logmadr wrote: | Okay. Great post. 
Does one? Who says that one must chose the lesser of two evils? You? What gives you the right? |
put it this way - there are only three options(in the scenario i went through in my last post) - what are you gonna do?
1) stand there and watch or ignore it (a negative/evil action, causing that victim to be killed, whoever it is)
2) put a stop to the killer, and harm them in some way, in worse case scenarios killing the would be killer
3) phoning eg the police, and risking the victim's life just waiting for someone to turn up
all three have negative and somewhat evil effects. of course- i agree that the lesser is what feels best to you, it varies from person to person, but you still have to choose, even if you stand there frozen in shock, that would count as the first option, leaving the victim to die.
there is no right and wrong, only what you feel is best. no matter how good or evil you are. yes regardless of whether the 'victim' is good or bad himself, we have this question again, what gave that 'killer' the right to end his life? which then means although you are letting this evil victim escape, at least the killer, should he be the good guy, not kill, and his own sanity and morality be restored.
someone would be harmed at minimum either way.
also, even the good people choose the easy option.
i think we have just agreed lol, time for your interpretation of what i just said now tomi 
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